Thanks to Akira Takao for the quick tests in morning twilight. From these it appears as a rough guide that one can expose at ~35 deg elongation without much loss of limiting magnitude up to about 1 hour before sunrise, which for mid-latitudes is close to the time of nautical twilight. One can also keep going for another 10 minutes (or start 10 minutes earlier in the evening) with shorter exposures with a modest loss of magnitude limit. This will be a useful starting point for further tests. Takao's magnitude limit figures suggest it could be very fruitful to conduct comet searches close to the Sun with a similar set-up (perhaps 105 or 135mm telephoto to cover more sky?). It is not surprising that the final image test only 4 minutes after the second gave a bright sky background: the brightness has begun to increase exponentially by this time in the twilight sequence, so just a few minutes time produces a large change in the twilight brightness! \Brian