Dear all concerned, Thank you very much for the cooperations and sorry for my late response. Here is a summary for NSV 12041 up to now. Please point out if my understanding is incorrect. a) The identification of NSV 12041 The location of NSV 12041 (Ref. Bidelman and MacConnell (1973), AJ, 78, 687, on the Table VIII, page 728) is of 0.04 Min. *west* of BD -21 5395. The USNO-A2.0 catalog has 2 candidates for this constraint: USNO-A2.0 0675-33182874 19h27m53s.53 -21o35'53".6 r=15.7 b=16.0 USNO-A2.0 0675-33182704 19h27m53s.37 -21o35'40".6 r=17.9 b=17.2 The latter, however, is not so bright on 2MASS image (can be hidden in the glare of the former, which is a bright IR source), so would not be a extreme red star. Also the former clearly shows the variability on DSS images. Then, the identification of NSV 12041 with the former star seems to be confident. # The latter star is the "north" star mentioned by J. Greaves # (vsnet-chat 3581). USNO-A2.0 0675-33182874 is actually a stellar complex constructed by at least 6 stars. It lies like (see with the constant-width font): E C North A F | B D East --+ The USNO-A2.0 position seems to be coincident with the star "C", which shows the variability and is the brightest one on every DSS images. T. Scarmato, who had first pointed this star out, says that he will continue the observation of this object to clarify the variability. B) Identification with IR sources BD -21 5395 and NSV 12041 are both bright IR source. On 2MASS images, the former is the brighter. The 2MASS catalog and IRAS FSC/SSC contains these two as: BD -21 5395: GSC6309.1204 192756.06 -213541.7 (2000.0) 9.15 6 GSC6309.1204 192756.08 -213542.2 (2000.0) 10.62 0 USNO0675.20727787 192755.997 -213541.18 (2000.0) 10.7 11.7 * (USNO-A1.0) USNO0675.33185742 192756.004 -213542.11 (2000.0) 8.6 11.3 (USNO-A2.0) 2MASS 192755.992 -213542.36 (2000.0) 0.000 0.000 0.000 192755.2 -213537 (2000.0) SD-21.5395 9.3 192755.3 -213548 (2000.0) CPD-21.7391 9.7 192755.9 -213542 (2000.0) 954 1.57 TYC6309.1204.1 plx=8.9(26.0) (0.04 0.14) 192755.9 -213542 (2000.0) 949 1.65 TYC2-6309.1204.1 (9.67 0.03) (11.61 0.10) 192755.1 -213546 (2000.0) FSC19249-2141 3.620 1.501 0.257L 1.570L NSV 12041: USNO0675.20725914 192753.630 -213553.43 (2000.0) 13.3 15.9 (USNO-A1.0) USNO0675.33182874 192753.527 -213553.56 (2000.0) 15.7 16.0 (USNO-A2.0) 2MASS 192753.574 -213552.67 (2000.0) 6.498 5.616 5.113 IRAS19249-2142 192454.5 -214203 (1950.0) F12=3.63 F25=1.44 F60=0.40L F100=1.00L VAR= 6 LRS=-1 possibly II: variable star with 'young' O-rich circumstellar shell or VII: variable star with more evolved C-rich circumstellar shell 192752.8 -213554 (2000.0) IRAS19249-2142 3.511 1.394 0.400L 1.000L 6% 192752.8 -213554 (2000.0) SSC19249-2142 3.511 1.394 0.400L 1.000L The offset between the 2MASS position and USNO-A2.0 position of NSV 12041 can possibly be explained by the effect of the northern star (USNO-A2.0 0675-33182704) on IR images, as J. Greaves pointed out. Again, thank you very much for the discussions. Sincerely Yours, Hitoshi Yamaoka, Kyushu Univ., Japan yamaoka@rc.kyushu-u.ac.jp