[vsnet-chat 5900] Re: The Negative Effects of the VSNET Email Policies

[Michael Koppelman <lolife@bitstream.net>]

On Thursday, January 16, 2003, at 08:57 PM, Taichi Kato wrote:

>    This statement can cause a misunderstanding.  Please have a look at
> e.g. vsnet-chat 5344, which relayed your call for obvervation.
> You were subsrcibed to this list (not many) in order to allow your 
> postings.

I'm sorry but this isn't true. I started receiving message from 
vsnet-campaign-v4641sgr, vsnet-campaign-dn, vsnet-obs and others 
starting months before I posted that call for observations.

> We usually keep these information senders on the relevant lists, which 
> is
> a quite natural list-maintaining policy.  In processing administrative
> requests, we usually apply some sort of delay (variable depending on 
> the
> list nature) before finally confirming whether the request is a valid 
> one.
> This rule has been also used to avoid an instataneous subscription,
> message posting, and unsubscription, as in some spam postings.  This is
> why we don't use automatic Majordomo processing.

I can understand why you moderate subscribes. I cannot understand why 
you moderate unsubscribes. Many people emailed after I sent this 
message and said they had the same trouble unsubscribing.

>
>    People who have been unsuccessful in unsubscribing to some specific
> list may have sent a request to a wrong address (such as 
> owner-vsnet-xxx);
> postings to these addresses (mostly spams and simple errors) are 
> usually
> automatically discarded.

I'm sure this is true, but I have run majordomo lists in the past and I 
know how to unsubscribe. In each case I received a confirmation stating 
my request was received and had to be processed by the administrator. 
These request have still not been attended to.

>
>    Use vsnet-complaints list for further comment on this topic.
>

You mean I should subscribe to a list to get off the lists?  =)

My main plea is to either automate the unsubscribe process or promptly 
process those request. I'm excited to be subscribed to only the vsnet 
lists I choose. I have great respect for your work.

Sincerely,
Michael Koppelman

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