[vsnet-chat 4216] Re: re vs-chat 4203 [was GK Per etc.]

[Patrick Schmeer <extpasc@rz.uni-sb.de>]

Hi Sebastian,
 
thanks a lot for your very funny comments. You really show a good sense of
humour :-)
 
On the day when Bill Liller announced his discovery of Nova Sgr 2001 I had
very little time. Actually I had to leave my house very early in the
morning. After having been able to return to the computer I send my obs.
to Daniel Green (CBAT) - shortly before the first IAU Circular (No. 7589) on 
this nova was issued. Unfortunately my estimate did not appear on that IAUC
(supposedly Dan received it just minutes too late). However, I had submitted 
my report several hours BEFORE you posted the AAX observation to VSNet. 
 
Cheers,
Patrick

P.S.:
More to the other allegations later - takes more time than to respond to
Sebastian comment.

On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 10:57:21PM -0300, Sebastian Otero wrote:
> ... 
> 
> One example:
> When Nova Sagittarii 2001 was discovered by Liller, inmediately, thanks to
> vsnet-alert we sent an alert to LIADA's discussion list. It ended up with
> our dediacted observer Alexandre Amorim reporting a visual observation of
> the new nova.
> 
> SGRnova2001    20010225.2410     85   AAX
> 
> This observation appeared a day later and I can't remember when, but Scp
> sent a delayed report of the nova having been observed before my Brazilian
> colleague.
> 
> 20010225.215    85  (P. Schmeer)
> 20010225.241    85  (Alexandre Amorim)
> 20010225.628    89  (A. Jones)
> 20010225.694    89  (R. Stubbings)
> 
> Of course, Rod, Albert, and everyone else had already sent their
> observations before Scp sent his. Maybe he should change his internet server
> since it seems to be too slow.
> I think it's time to stop playing this game.
> Neither of us make variable star estimates for the glory but for the fun of
> it, as Mike said. But it doesn't mean it is ok that someone takes profit of
> our altruistic dedication.
> 
> Of course there are no rules in our activity and everybody can send their
> observations when they feel like doing it but we all do it as fast as
> possible to help others in observing and to share our experiences. It's a
> strange thing the way Scp does it.
> And I insist we can do whatever we want to do, for instance: to watch a star
> when we feel like.
> It would be very annoying that someone would tell us when we should take a
> look at a certain star. Wouldn't it? ;-)
> 
> Maybe we are all wrong.
> Maybe Patrick doesn't seem to be interested in people receiving his very
> valuable observations until everybody knows about the objects and what is
> happenning to them... jsut because he is too modest... ;-)...

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