[vsnet-chat 4215] Re: re vs-chat 4203 [was GK Per etc.]

[Bish Ishibashi <bish@howdy.gsfc.nasa.gov>]

Hi guys, 

I can sympathsize for frustration all of you must have been feeling. 
This type of things are more common in a professional community; and 
competitions can be a bit more ugly (esp. when some big $$$ involved). 
You know the kind. The one who keeps making a wrong assessment on 
a physical model; and when being pointed out and suggested for a new, 
better model (unpublished), he/she simply replies "oh I know that" and 
goes on ignoring you. And the next time you find the person, he or she 
is quoting the model you mentioned. Sometimes it turns into his or her 
discovery, if you are sloppy and politically inept enough not to publish
it fast and first. 


Of course, everyone pays attention to the *quality* and *authenticity* 
of the work, this wouldn't usually be a problem. But that ain't happening
these days. That really blows, eh? 


Yeah, and that sometimes hurts. Sometimes it makes you want to blow up 
on someone's face. BUT, that probably doesn't say that we should gang 
up on a particular person and crucify publicly. For one thing, the 
whole dicussion isn't probably aimed to RESOLVE the problem that may 
exist in the system, you know?  Yeah, sometimes it feels good to bitch 
and mourn, but that ain't solving any problem. I am afraid but I am not 
really following thru the entire argument here. For one I am not a 
CV person or a visual observer. But I can say that, from what I read
so far, no one seems to care to address how to deal with the problem
in future.  Now that is truly disheartening. 


When I face the situation like this, I'd first try to get through the 
persons and put a sense into them. If that doesn't work, then I just
simply ignore them as reasonably and prudently as I can muster. But it
seems some of you in vsnet-chat skipped that "putting a sense" part 
and went on with a grudgefest. That doesn't seem right to me, even if
the person may have had it coming, that is. 


...and that's my two cents' worth. I can't spare more than that right now
as my state tax (due midnight tonight in the U.S.) took away the rest of 
my savings. 

Best regards, 

Bish Ishibashi

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