Doug West asked off-line about the best way to observe V838 Mon. My answer might be of interest to other observers, so I am posting the reply here. V848 Mon is a highly unusual nova from at least two standpoints: it is *very* red, with a late M spectral type; and it has a light-echo shell. Both of these features make it challenging to do accurate photometry. Recent photometry from USNO gave V=16.0, Rc=14.7 and Ic=11.2. Kiyota-san gave 10.66C; Doug West gave Ic=10.3. All three datasets are relatively close in time and so should agree. Obviously they don't, so the question is: why? First, you should use a standard filter if you intend to submit your data for others to use. The red color [(V-I)~5] means that systems with red response will measure the object much brighter than those that don't. Unfiltered systems are the most prone to this (try combining Sony interline unfiltered CCD observations with KAF0400 CCD observations, for example). This is the main reason for the Kiyota discrepancy. However, even filtered observations will have problems. Cousins-I (also called Ic) is strictly defined in the Cousins and Landolt papers with a central wavelength of 800nm and half-power width of 150nm. The Bessell glass prescription (3mm RG9) does a pretty good job of matching this bandpass except in the red, where the falloff is CCD-determined and not filter-determined. This means very red objects like this one will again be measured too bright in comparison to a true Ic filter. Our 1.0m filterset actually uses an interference filter for Ic to get the proper red cutoff, which is why our measures are fainter than others reported. V and Rc do not suffer from this problem (both red and blue edges are filter defined), so I would use V or Rc for your measures over Ic or B (a filter that can have a red leak). Second, the light-echo interferes with aperture photometry. The inner radius of the light echo is something like 5arcsec, so if you use a maximum measurement aperture radius of around 5arcsec, the flux recorded comes from the central star itself. If you use an aperture much bigger than this, you start including nebulosity and the measure will be brighter than reality. Likewise, you need to set the sky annulus out beyond the edge of the light-echo. It currently has about a 30arcsec radius, so you need to set the inner radius to >30arcsec. Otherwise, the nebula is included in the sky annulus and the subtraction will yield a final measure that is fainter than reality. This may seem like a strange combination (small star aperture and huge sky annulus radii), but it gives the best results. So in summary, to do photometry of the nova itself: - use V or Rc filters - use a small measuring aperture - set the sky annulus outside the light-echo shell Now, the light echo shell itself is a lot of fun to image, especially if you have decent seeing and good pixelization. To image the shell, any bandpass will do. Using three will give you a nice tricolor image. Using a blue bandpass will give the maximum contrast between the star and the light echo, but unfiltered will do a nice job of recording the maximum extent of the nebula since it is pretty faint. It is expanding at about 0.1arcsec/day, so watching the light-echo shell over a month or so will show noticable expansion. Determining the diameter is a bit more tricky since the echo is somewhat asymmetric; you can take multiple radii and average them. Arne