SN2000de 20000811.9 160:C Mgl SN2000de 20000813.85 160:C ColDruscue'Obs SN2000de 20000817.4 160:C AoM SN2000df 20000817.204 172:C SCH SN2000df 20000818.194 172:C SCH # NGC 4384, the host galaxy of SN 2000de, is somewhat nearby; its # recession velosity is about 2500 km/s. The typical SNeIa is about # 14 mag at maximum. Besides, CGCG 51-70, the host of SN 2000df, is # further; the expected maximum of SNeIa at this distance is 17+ mag.