Following a private e-mail earlier today from Patrick Schmeer, alerting both Chris Jones & myself to an outburst of V452 Cas, Chris & I have managed confirmation... Nov 09.774 14.7 C. Jones Seq. VSNET 09.781 14.9 G. Poyner Seq. VSNET Unfortunately the only information that Patrick included in his message was that V452 Cas was around 15th magnitude. Are these possibly the first ever visual observations of an outburst of this star? Further visual and photometric observations of this outburst are to be encouraged. Best regards, Gary Poyner