The probable nova discovered by Peter Williams would be the third known nova in Vela - and by far the brightest one. The two previous ones were CN Vel in 1905 (max 10.2p) and CQ Vel in 1940 (max 9.0p). -------------------------------------------------------------- Here is a complete list of well-observed classical novae that got brighter than mag 3.5 at maximum. V603 Aql 1918 -1.1v GK Per 1901 0.2v CP Pup 1942 0.5v RR Pic 1925 1.0v DQ Her 1934 1.3v V476 Cyg 1920 1.6v V1500 Cyg 1975 1.8V CP Lac 1936 2.1v CK Vul 1670 2.6v Q Cyg 1876 3.0v V446 Her 1960 3.0p V533 Her 1963 3.0p -------------------------------------------------------------- And here is a list from the USNO-A2.0 catalog of those stars within 120" of the reported nova position and with b-r<1.3 RA Decl. Mag. Radius Angle hr mn sec dec mn sec Red Blue arcsec deg 10 44 31.231 -52 23 52.92 16.6 17.7 111.9 251.8 10 44 31.533 -52 21 56.82 15.9 17.0 114.8 291.9 10 44 32.023 -52 23 44.27 17.0 18.2 101.5 253.5 10 44 32.335 -52 22 38.97 16.8 17.7 91.0 278.2 10 44 32.783 -52 22 39.84 17.8 18.7 86.8 278.3 10 44 33.603 -52 23 39.65 16.1 17.0 86.5 252.5 10 44 33.738 -52 23 38.67 16.9 17.8 84.9 252.7 10 44 34.314 -52 22 53.84 15.7 16.8 70.6 273.1 10 44 35.415 -52 23 23.10 14.2 15.2 64.6 256.8 10 44 36.532 -52 22 36.81 11.3 12.4 55.2 285.8 10 44 38.132 -52 23 39.48 17.1 18.1 53.0 235.8 10 44 38.641 -52 21 18.32 16.2 17.3 106.2 333.6 10 44 39.513 -52 22 50.36 17.1 18.2 24.7 284.5 10 44 39.891 -52 21 53.67 17.5 18.7 69.1 334.5 10 44 40.694 -52 22 15.40 17.7 18.9 46.2 336.3 10 44 40.943 -52 24 29.09 17.8 19.0 89.6 190.1 10 44 42.182 -52 24 11.14 16.0 17.1 71.2 177.8 10 44 42.751 -52 21 02.33 17.4 18.3 117.9 5.5 10 44 42.988 -52 22 22.93 17.5 18.7 38.2 21.8 10 44 44.080 -52 24 45.85 16.6 17.7 107.5 163.6 10 44 44.967 -52 21 27.85 16.8 18.0 96.1 25.8 10 44 45.264 -52 21 45.07 17.5 18.7 80.7 33.2 10 44 45.388 -52 24 22.77 17.7 18.8 88.4 148.5 10 44 45.720 -52 24 24.91 17.3 18.0 91.5 146.7 10 44 46.349 -52 22 08.62 16.8 18.0 65.0 51.8 10 44 46.598 -52 23 45.62 15.0 16.2 62.1 123.5 10 44 47.656 -52 23 50.22 14.5 15.2 72.1 120.6 10 44 47.859 -52 23 54.10 16.1 17.1 76.2 121.6 10 44 48.433 -52 23 09.87 14.8 15.9 59.7 95.8 10 44 48.629 -52 21 59.40 17.0 18.1 85.8 58.7 10 44 50.499 -52 24 00.61 16.8 18.0 98.6 115.4 10 44 51.306 -52 23 51.03 17.5 18.7 99.3 110.1 10 44 53.376 -52 22 37.62 16.0 17.2 106.5 82.5 USNO-A2.0 magnitudes for GSC 8210.383: r= 12.7, b= 14.7 Regards, Patrick