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# Arne, you must have been too long in the world of astronomy, and # it should have made you impossible to discern the difference between # scientific confidence and simple politics. Don't be blind. === Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 08:53:50 -0700 From: Arne Henden <aah@nofs.navy.mil> Subject: Re: [vsnet-chat 6901] (fwd) Re: (fwd) Re: (fwd) Re: V5113 Sgr = Nova Sgr 2003 No.2 Taichi, Your posting of Samus' comments is in really poor taste. No matter what you feel about the content of his emails, he specifically asked them to be private. If you do this to him, then I expect you to do the same to anyone, and I will make it a point never to ask you something in confidence. Arne Taichi Kato wrote: > This message is to inform Samus' decision. It would be obvious to > readers what scientific merits and demerits are being weighed by the > GCVS team. I will simply keep faithful to science and readers' wish. > > Regards, > Taichi Kato > === > > Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 12:58:28 +0400 (MSD) > From: "Nikolai N. Samus" <samus@sai.msu.ru> > Subject: Re: [vsnet-gcvs 541] (fwd) Re: (fwd) Re: V5113 Sgr = Nova Sgr 2003 > No.2 > > OK, you will never get anything to forward from me any more if you don't > understand kind requests. > > On Wed, 24 Sep 2003, Taichi Kato wrote: > > >> Forwarded message - a measure to make things clear. I will forward >>any message whose public presence will be helpful. >> >>Regards, >>Taichi Kato >>=== >> >>Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 12:45:42 +0400 (MSD) >>From: "Nikolai N. Samus" <samus@sai.msu.ru> >>Subject: Re: [vsnet-gcvs 540] (fwd) Re: V5113 Sgr = Nova Sgr 2003 No.2 >> >>Dear Dr. Kato, >> >>I would have appreciated your sending me your thoughts in a personal >>message. Very probably, you are right, and we could discuss the >>problem with Dr. Green again. However, after my explicit request not to >>circulate my message to you, I consider your reaction as quite unfriendly. >>It is a shock for me that VSNET considers it possible not to take into >>account a request from me, knowing our attention to your work and our >>appreciation of all your effort. >> >>Yours sincerely >>Nikolai N. Samus >> >>On Wed, 24 Sep 2003, Taichi Kato wrote: >> >> >>> Relayed here, after deliberate consideration, because relaying this >>>information is more beneficial to the public rather than keeping it >>>within personal communications. >>> >>> I have a feeling that logicial basis for not consdiering this object >>>as a nova is too tenuous. I would rather expect a decision by the >>>GCVS team to issue the permanent name for this object, since the >>>variable star nomenclature system is not affected by such a slight >>>difference whether or not the nova nature of an object is widely >>>received. There have been a number of instances in which permanent >>>GCVS names were issued (e.g. V445 Pup) before the nova-type nature >>>is established. I don't find a special reason to exclude this object >>>in Crux from an equivalent process of consideration. >>> >>>Regards, >>>Taichi Kato >>>=== >>> >>>Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:41:40 +0400 (MSD) >>>From: "Nikolai N. Samus" <samus@sai.msu.ru> >>>Subject: Re: [vsnet-gcvs 536] V5113 Sgr = Nova Sgr 2003 No.2 >>> >>>Dear Dr. Kato, >>> >>>The answer about Nova Cru is NO. We were discussing this with Dr. Green, >>>but then he became not sure about the star being a Nova, and the process >>>was temporaly stopped. Since this is our internal process, please do not >>>circulate this information over VSNET. >>> >>>Best regards >>>Kolya >>> >>>On Tue, 23 Sep 2003, Taichi Kato wrote: >>> >>> >>>>V5113 Sgr = Nova Sgr 2003 No.2 >>>> >>>> The above designation has been given in IAUC 8206. Use this permanent >>>>GCVS name for further reporting. >>>> >>>>Regards, >>>>Taichi Kato >>>> >>>>PS. I wonder whether a permanent GCVS name for Nova Cru 2003 has already >>>> been assigned. >>>> >>> > >
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