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[vsnet-chat 6540] Re:Position of V449 Lyr (was [AAVSO-DIS] V449 Lyr - does AAVSO want my data?)



   Before Tom K. starts submitting data on V449 Lyr, I respectfully suggest
he specify exactly which star he has observed. There is some developing
confusion about the position of V449 Lyr.
Firstly, the coordinates published by Romano (and used by Guide 8) are bad.
Please disregard.
Secondly, Romano's finder chart is quite clear. His variable, no. 249, is
the middle star in a line of three running SW-NE.
See IBVS 645.  This is my understanding of the identity of V449 Lyr, unless
he has published a later correction, somewhere ...
Coordinates for these stars are as follows (from B1.0), and mb from A2.0.
   #           (2000)                               mb
  1      19:07:35.66   +43:59:53.9      14.9   (GCVS id)
  2      19:07:37.07   +44:00:20.1      15.0   (Romano)
  3      19:07:38.63   +44:00:43.3      12.4

Star 1 is listed in the GCVS, but appears to be in error.
Star 2 is Romano's variable 249 = V449 Lyr, on his finder chart.
The rough position published in IBVS 3701 is consistent with star 2.
Perhaps the published maximum mag. for this star is a typo, or the result of
confusion with star 3.
The B1.0 magnitudes for star 2 are as follows :  B1 = 15.94, B2 = 18.20, R1
= 14.43, R2 = 15.58, I =14.04.

Regards,
Mati

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Skiff" <Brian.Skiff@lowell.edu>
To: <dhkaiser@sprynet.com>
Cc: <aavso-discussion@informer2.cis.McMaster.CA>
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 7:25 AM
Subject: Re: [AAVSO-DIS] V449 Lyr - does AAVSO want my data?


>      It is worth noting that there is indeed _no_ published study of
> this star, and only recently have the GCVS group given a precise
> position for the star.  The current 'best' position is from 2MASS:
>
> V449 Lyr   19 07 35.68  +43 59 53.0 (J2000)
>
> SIMBAD shows only the discovery paper, which has no lightcurve
information,
> and Mati Morel's IBVS flyer with a somewhat improved position (the on-line
> GCVS is better still, and the 2MASS position more-or-less definitive).
> The star is fairly faint on all Schmidt plate scans, so (as Mati
suggested)
> the nominal maximum magnitude could be too bright.
>      I note that the 2MASS J-K color is about 0.6, which is the color of
> an unreddened K0 giant.  Thus instead of an Algol- or W UMa-type eclipser,
> it could be an RS CVn type---assuming the classification as an ecliper
> is correct at all.
>
> \Brian
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