(fwd) MGC+01-04044 confusion GUIDE (Rodriguez) From DRODRIG@santandersupernet.com Tue Sep 1 08:06 JST 1998 From: "Diego Rodriguez" <DRODRIG@santandersupernet.com> Subject: RV: MGC+01-04044 confusion GUIDE Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 08:46:07 +0200 Incorrect Information Guide 6.0 Sorry Taichi. I have concluded there is some incorrect information as to the exact position of the galaxy MCG+01-04-044.in my software (Guide 6.0) Information of MGC+01-04-044 Alternate name = PGC 5072 Right ascension: 01h23m18.92s Declination: +07 47' 38.4" Information of MGC+01-04-044 Alternate name PGC 005341 Alternate names: MCG -1- 4- 44 UGCA 17 A 0123-06 Right ascension: 01h26m19.14s Declination: -06 04' 26.0" >Diego Rodriguez >drodrig@globalmail.net >M1 Group Madrid Spain > > >>Re: [vsnet 1575] Re: (fwd) On SN1998dm (Howerton) - by Larry >> >>> I viewed MCG+01-04-044 at approximately 9:30 UT (4:30 a.m. CDT) August >30, >>> 1998 with a 13.1" (33.3cm) f/4.5 dobsonian at 202x. After making a >visual >>> examination of the field, I have concluded there is some incorrect >>> information as to the exact position of the galaxy MCG-01-04-044. >>> >>> The chart provided at the address listed below incorrectly positions the >>> galaxy. Furthermore, my software (Guide 6.0) also plots the galaxy at >the >>> same position (1h 26.319m, -6d 4.433m). Both show a star (GSC 4684 1696 >per >>> Guide 6.0) in the south-southwestern tip of the galaxy when this star >>> actually lies some 1/2' following the northeastern tip of the galaxy. >>> However, an examination of the software RealSky reveals a position of >>> approximately 1h 26m 14s, -6d 5m 44s for the galaxy. >>> >>> Others may make the same mistake I did this morning in believing there is >a >>> foreground star in the SSW tip and be frustrated in not being able to >detect >>> the supernova when, in fact, this star is probably the supernova. >>> >>> Thus if I am correct, the only star visible in the SSW tip of >MCG+01-04-044 >>> is SN1998dm. Since I mistook it for a foreground star I did not make an >>> estimate of its brightness. However, I had made a mental note that it >was >>> about 14.0 to 14.5 as I was wondering why this "foreground" star was much >>> fainter than expected. >>> >>> Am I correct in my conclusion? >> >> Your finding is correct; most star chart plotting program seem to use >>the original MCG coordinates. >> >> Original MCG coordinates (precessed to J2000.0) and RC3 ones: >> >>012618.0 -060359 (2000.0) RC3_A0123-06 PGC5341 .SB.5*. >>012619.0 -060426 (2000.0) CfA_A0123-0620 v=1968km/s Bmag=13.1 >>012619.1 -060425 (2000.0) M-01-04-044 >> >> GSC and USNO entries for this galaxy (detected in IRAS also): >> >>GSC4684.2075 012614.03 -060555.4 (2000.0) 11.11 0 N >>GSC4684.1578 012614.46 -060538.0 (2000.0) 10.48 0 N >>USNO0825.00327490 012614.037 -060555.43 (2000.0) 11.1 99.9 >>USNO0825.00327515 012614.466 -060538.01 (2000.0) 10.5 99.9 >>USNO0825.00327522 012614.546 -060536.88 (2000.0) 9.3 9.7 >>012613.8 -060543 (2000.0) IRAS01237-0621 0.475L 0.296L 0.725 2.171 -1% >>012613.8 -060543 (2000.0) SSC01237-0621 0.475L 0.296L 0.725 2.171 >>012614.8 -060537 (2000.0) FSC01237-0621 0.130L 0.145L 0.683 2.001 >> >> Regarding the supernova itself, the reported position seems to be a few >>arcsec off, as I posted earlier -- could someone confirm this astrometry? >> >> There is a 15.5 mag star west to the SN. So observers are requested >>to avoid confusion and/or contamination of this foreground star. >> >> GIF image kindly provided by S. Massaro is at >> >> ftp://ftp.kusastro.kyoto-u.ac.jp/vsnet/SNe/sn1998dm/sn1998dm.gif >> >>Regards, >>Taichi Kato >> >