In the CGCS introduction, Stephenson suggests the northern Milky Way "within about 5 degrees of the galactic plane is now rather thoroughly surveyed for carbon stars in the infrared to I mag. 12-13." Assuming the 2MASS object is a carbon star, and with the J magnitude around 10, I'd guess the object is near this completeness limit, and simply has hitherto been overlooked. The CGCS entry matching with CU Vul comes from the surveys done in the 1950s at Case, where the limit was around 9th at I (per the Stephenson comments also)---the 2MASS object is simply too faint to have been picked up. >> ...post these established identifications to vsnet-id... I got a note only yesterday from Pascal Dubois at CDS-Strasbourg asking about this. They will apparently be making the first series available through the VizieR service, which includes flat ASCII versions of the tables and notes/IDs. In order to do this myself, I'd have to go through manually and strip out all the LaTeX mark-up, which I'm loath to do if the results are being provided elsewhere. One of these days, of course, I need to figure out how to get back to making finals checks and preparing the remaining lists for publication. Time, time, time... \Brian