Dear Taichi, I must admit that my scalefactor was a bit out. It should have read like: "If this is applied to yellow-orange stars (G-K) one will end up with a waveband somewhat closer to I, and for very red stars close and even beyound (?) the I band." As effective wavelengths do change more considerably with unfiltered CCDs, red stars and reddened regions are photometrically 'out' for unfiltered CCD cameras. I did make the mistake once. Regards, Berto >>> Taichi Kato <tkato@kusastro.kyoto-u.ac.jp> 01/28/03 11:10AM >>> Re: [AAVSO-DIS] Reporting observations: Multi-letter codes > For blue stars, incl CVs, the effective wavelength of this observing > window of most CCD cameras is near that of the R band. Therefore R > magnitudes of reference stars (with non-red colours) in the field can be > used. Such observations are usually reported as CR. > If this is applied to yellow-orange stars (G-K) one will end up with a > waveband close to I. I magnitudes of similarly coloured reference stars > could be used for them. Observations are reported as CI. Please don't be confused. For most of stars with usual colors, the effective wavelengths of the most CCDs have close to that of Rc. Effective wavelengths are integrated quntities, and little vary around the mean wavelengths of the original CCD/filter passbands. Your explanation only applies to extremely red objects which virtually emit no light shorter than 650 nm. Regards, Taichi Kato -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. "The CSIR exercises no editorial control over E-mail messages and/or attachments thereto/links referred to therein originating in the organisation and the views in this message/attachments thereto are therefore not necessarily those of the CSIR and/or its employees. The sender of this e-mail is, moreover, in terms of the CSIR's Conditions of Service, subject to compliance with the CSIR's internal E-mail and Internet Policy."