Thom wrote: >Has V838 gotten bluer or redder since the (last) >maximum? Is the thinking now that the progenitor was a red giant that >is now sloughing of a (more to come?) shell? Over the last week, V838 Mon has changed dramatically. At VRI, it is about the same as before, but U and B are *much* fainter; another example of how filters can highlight different astrophysics. I can expose for 15 minutes at U before saturation, whereas I can only expose for 0.8seconds at I, and that with defocus. I'm waiting for the moon to get past full, and then will do some deep imaging in the blue wavelengths. V838 Mon is thought to be very similar to FG Sge, V605 Aql or V4334 Sgr; you can look at the ADS/Simbad papers on those objects. However, the jury is still out as there are a number of differences, making this a very fun star to follow. Luckily we have a few months before it disappears in the west. Arne