Didier Favre wrote: >This could explain the difference around 1 magnitude of all my >measurements. >HJD V (st6 without filter) errors >52056.934 12.34 0.13 >52061.927 12.45 0.17 My measure close in time was > 52061.8915 13.571 1.541 1.529 0.783 0.003 0.004 0.002 0.001 I don't know how Favre calculated Vmag for his st6 system; which comparison stars were used? Note from my m67 paper http://ftp.nofs.navy.mil/pub/outgoing/aah/m67 the response for a TC241 as used in the st6 is midway between V and R. Depending on the color of the comparison stars, I could easily imagine a systematic error of this size for unfiltered measures of such a red object. Why not purchase and use a standard filter? Arne