A coupla months back the GCVS people brought out an updated electronic version of the GCVS 4th edition, which now combines the main body of the GCVS with namelists from 67 to 75 inclusive all in one file. Even better, the remarks from the printed version are now also included as an ascii text file in English. A first. See http://vsnet.sai.msu.su/groups/cluster/gcvs/gcvs/iii/ for details This may be of interest to some people, as I've seen posts that have noted difficulties people have had finding newly named variables in existing GCVS files on their hard disks. Equally, SIMBAD appears to be woefully behind with respect to GCVS versions, namelists and NSV stars. !!!GUIDE 7 USERS!!! Currently variable star interrogation for Guide 7 users utilises an on CD version of the GCVS that is complete up to Namelist 72 or 73. Namelist 74 is coincidentally covered because it consists of Hipparcos discoveries, and Guide 7 covers Hipparcos variables independently. Namelist 75 is covered by an independent TDF which uses the electronic version of said, as written by m'sen. ie: Messy. Below is a TDF file to enable people to use the latest electronic version of the GCVS volumes I-III, which as stated above now includes data from namelists 67-75, as available via the above website. It will be listed under Extra Tables as "General Catalogue Variable Stars", and parameters such as mag limits etc can be set in the usual way. Variables are shown as stars depicted at equivalent to max mag, although take care to note passband with respect to the visual "reality" of these mags. Objects can be "gone to" via the GOTO TDF feature... ...there is dialogue box help and "More Info" help... ...it may be best to switch off the normal "Data Shown/Variables" option when using this TDF. GOTO variable names are neither case sensitive nor spacing dependent, but variables of the ilk 'vnnn con' will have to be expanded to 'v0nnn con', as this is the format used in the data file [eg v400 cas should be requested using v0400 cas]. Both the TDF and data file should be in the Guide directory, else put the full path to the data in the first line. You can call the tdf anything, as long as it has a .TDF extension, though 'gcvs.tdf' seems simplest. The following is the TDF... ...it can be cut and past to an ascii file, but all the '!' characters MUST be removed before use... ...they are being used here to denote the start and end of lines so any resultant word wrap due to various email clients can be seen and amended via text editor. Finally, the need to cover certain esoteric but infrequent flags in the data table in a way that allows full data retrieval means that the following could be a bit buggy with respect to info display due to it being difficult to test _all_ obscure occurences of conditionals and format needs, very especially all possible combinations thereof!!!!!! General and more frequently known data should be okay mindst. No doubt this latest version of the GCVS will be the one used in newer versions of Guide, so this is mostly a stop gap exercise, but as I say, I have noted people having difficulty from time to time with respect to finding details for namelist 75 variabels, for example. [NB MSDG wallahs can contact me independently in the usual way should they have any difficulty with this tdf... ...though they shouldn't have ;)...] Cheers John John Greaves, UK ------------------start TDFcut--------------- !file gcvs.dat! !title General Catalogue Variable Stars! !RA H 21 2! !RA M 23 2! !RA S 25 4! !de d 29 3! !de m 32 2! !de s 34 2! !mag 65 8! !text 9 9! !~b 9 9 %s\n\n! !~b 54 10 Variability Type: %s\n\n! !~b 65 8 Max Mag: %s\n! !~b 73 1 %s\n! !~b 75 0 ( Amplitude:! !~b 75 0 < Min Mag:! !~b 75 0 Min Mag:! !~b 75 10 %s\n! !~b 86 2 Mag Type %s\n! !~b108 17 \nPeriod: %s days\n! !~r125 0 : Period is uncertain\n! !~r126 0 * Period may be a multiple of quoted value\n! !~r126 0 / Period may be a fraction of quoted value\n! !~r126 0 ) Period is a mean cycle time\n! !~b 89 11 Epoch: JD 24%s! !~r100 0 : uncertain\n! !~r100 0 + may be later than stated\n! !~r100 0 - may be earlier than stated\n! !~r100 0 \n! !~r129 4 \nRise Time / Eclipse Duration ratio : 0.%s\n! !~r133 0 * There is no total eclipse\n! !~b135 17 \nSpectral Type: %s\n! !~r 21 2 \nRA(B1950): %sh! !~r 23 2 %sm! !~r 25 4 %ss\n! !~r 29 3 Dec(B1950): %sd! !~r 32 2 %s'! !~r 34 2 %s"\n! !~r 36 0 : RA to 1 second, Dec to 0.1 arcmin\n! !~r 36 0 * Dec to 1 arcmin\n! !~r 36 0 ' RA to 1 minute, Dec to 1 arcmin\n! !~r165 0 = \nOther Name / NameList No. / HIP No. / Vol V Name :! !~r166 11 %s\n\n! !~r 19 0 * \nThere are Notes in the Remarks file\n! !~r164 0 | \n\nSource : http://vsnet.sai.msu.su/groups/cluster/gcvs/gcvs/iii/\n! !! !epoch 1950! !type 6! !label spaces! !goto spaces! !goto case! !field 0 120! !mag lim 199! !shown 1! !end! ----------------------------end TDF cut---------------------- END of POST