At 18:26 21/09/00 -0700, Brian Skiff wrote: > Presumably the Bruce camera plates used by Luyten are still stashed >away at Harvard, so ultimately one could go and look (or have someone look) >at the originals to see what marks there are on the plates. Ahah!!! That stirred the memory cells. Now that you mention this, someone is actually doing that sort of work specifically with Luyten's variables from the BPM survey! See recently published JAAVSO 28, 12 (2000) by a David B Williams for some results. If any joint vsnet and aavso peoples know David B Williams, could they pass on the NSV 11683 & HadV69 details, just in case it is the sort of thing he is interested in? Cheers John