While I don't intend to 'muddy the waters', there are now a number of vsnet maillists. It becomes very difficult to decide where to post something. For example, on an outburst that is not rare, posting to vsnet-obs might make sense to some people, yet personally I don't subscribe to vsnet-obs since I reserve that for just the posting of observations, not any interpretation of those observations. vsnet-chat is more for the current kind of discussion, not for any kind of alert, rare or otherwise. So, I don't see any problem with posting *any* unusual event such as *any* CV outburst on vsnet-alert. What may seem unimportant to you may be very important to some other observer. You can filter such postings as you see fit. Arne