Eric Kuulkers wrote: > In that respect it might be different to the so-called TOADs or > WZ Sge stars, which have not yet shown to be triggered by a normal outburst, > and show (almost) no normal outburst in between superoutbursts I believe V1028 Cyg has an outburst amplitude exceeding 6 magnitude based on the recent quiescent estimate. Doesn't it well deserve a TOAD? Or should we modify slightly the TOAD definition? It's indeed interesting that there is yet no observational hint of triggering normal outburst even in well-observed WZ Sge-type superoutbursts. Regards, Taichi Kato