These V-band values are ~0.2mag brighter than mine, and seemingly show variation whereas my data are constant to +/- 0.02. There are two possible explanations: 1) "Kis" is using either (V-R) or (V-I) to do the transformations onto the standard system. Both of these colors are heavily influenced by the red "star" of the composite spectrum. For example, (V-I) is approximately 5.1, whereas (B-V) is 0.7. Looking at the spectrum, you should be using (B-V) as the red "star" spectra is not present in the V bandpass. This is one case where you either need to ignore transformations (since most V filters are pretty close to the standard system), or else observe with B as well as VRI. 2) The measuring aperture is not small enough. There are two fainter stars close to V838 Mon, and including them in the measuring aperture will make the star seem too bright. Your aperture diameter should be less than 8arcsec. Ic is about a half magnitude too bright. My guess here is that a Bessell prescription Ic filter is being used. These filters work fine for normal stars, but they have a red tail that influences measures of red stars. The spectrum is so cut up with molecular bands that even small differences between filters will be amplified. Tough object on which to do photometry! The best filters, if you can go that deep, are B and V. Arne Taichi Kato wrote: > V838 Mon CCD observations by Kis > > WWW: http://vsnet.age.ne.jp/x/meineko/index-e.html > Instruments: 0.25-m +Apogee AP-7 + Optec Maxfilter 2" > > object YYYYMMDD(UT) mag code > MONV838 20021103.788 9.46Ic Kis.VSOLJ > MONV838 20021103.792 15.89V Kis.VSOLJ > MONV838 20021103.802 14.34Rc Kis.VSOLJ > MONV838 20021104.659 9.40Ic Kis.VSOLJ > MONV838 20021104.667 15.88V Kis.VSOLJ > MONV838 20021104.677 14.24Rc Kis.VSOLJ > MONV838 20021109.776 9.58Ic Kis.VSOLJ > MONV838 20021109.780 15.98V Kis.VSOLJ > MONV838 20021109.788 14.24Rc Kis.VSOLJ > MONV838 20021113.617 15.43V Kis.VSOLJ > MONV838 20021113.624 9.37Ic Kis.VSOLJ > MONV838 20021113.641 13.98Rc Kis.VSOLJ > MONV838 20021128.651 9.29Ic Kis.VSOLJ > MONV838 20021128.661 14.00Rc Kis.VSOLJ > MONV838 20021128.677 15.93V Kis.VSOLJ > MONV838 20021215.561 9.40Ic Kis.VSOLJ > MONV838 20021215.590 14.02Rc Kis.VSOLJ > MONV838 20021225.640 13.92Rc Kis.VSOLJ > MONV838 20021225.651 9.29Ic Kis.VSOLJ > MONV838 20021225.662 15.89V Kis.VSOLJ > MONV838 20021226.542 15.61V Kis.VSOLJ > MONV838 20021226.551 14.09Rc Kis.VSOLJ > MONV838 20021226.574 9.38Ic Kis.VSOLJ > MONV838 20021227.628 15.84V Kis.VSOLJ > MONV838 20021227.640 9.38Ic Kis.VSOLJ > > >