Re: (fwd) V445 Pup (Eyres) > A number of symbiotic stars, particularly the so-called symbiotic > novae (e.g. HM Sge) have spectra early in their outbursts which show > no hint of a red giants, and often these objects were not even > identified as symbiotic stars until outburst. Also, as far as I can > tell some symbiotic novae (e.g. HM Sge, V1016 Cyg) do not appear in > the 2MASS Second Incremental Release Point Source Catalog. The > H-deficiency is harder to explain in the symbiotic model however. They are very bright 2MASS sources. HM Sge: 2MASS 194157.072 +164439.48 (2000.0) 0.000 0.000 0.000 2MASS 194157.072 +164439.84 (2000.0) 0.000 0.000 0.000 2MASS 194157.086 +164439.85 (2000.0) 7.619 6.011 4.652 V1016 Cyg: 2MASS 195705.030 +394936.33 (2000.0) 7.017 5.794 4.721 2MASS 195705.064 +394935.76 (2000.0) 0.000 0.000 0.000 Regards, Taichi Kato