(fwd) KN Gem identification Forwarded because KN Gem was selected as a campaign target. From: "Mike Simonsen" <mikesimonsen@mindspring.com> Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 13:59:20 -0500 Subject: [vsnet-chat 5069] KN Gem The position and identity of KN Gem has been a bit of a mystery. It has been mis-classified, mis-identified, and even mistaken for the Mira, BR Gem, which resides happily in the same field minding its own business. You can read more about this confusion and the solution in IBVS 5083. KN Gem: Misclassified Because of Misidentification Samus, N.N. Institute of Astronomy, Russian Academy of Sciences, 48, Pyatnitskaya Str., Moscow 109017, Russia Sternberg Astronomical Institute, 13, University Ave., Moscow 119899, Russia [samus@sai.msu.ru] Abstract: The GCVS type and light elements for KN Gem, based on Meinunger (1965), actually refer to BR Gem. KN Gem remains an unconfirmed dwarf nova suspect. Full paper- http://vsnet.konkoly.hu/cgi-bin/IBVS?5083 There are AAVSO charts which show BR Gem and KN Gem. KN Gem lies almost due west of the position shown on these charts. http://charts.aavso.org/PRELIM/GEM/BR_GEM/ Position of KN Gem from A Catalogue and Atlas of Cataclysmic Variables, A Living Edition Ronald Downes, et. al. can be viewed at http://icarus.stsci.edu/~downes/cvcat/query_processor.cgi?setup_file=varcat. setup.cgi The AAVSO sequence only goes as faint as 133, so it is hardly adequate to cover the range of BR Gem (12.6-<16.2p) or KN Gem (13-<15.5p). Charts with a CCD(V) sequence for both stars are now online at http://joevp.20m.com/charts/sxncharts/Gem%20KN%20sxn.gif and http://joevp.20m.com/charts/sxncharts/Gem%20KN%20Rsxn.gif Two interesting variables for the price of one chart, which is of course -FREE! Special thanks to Arne Henden for supplying the photometry and Maciej Reszelski for his research. Clear skies, Mike Simonsen Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 20:07:43 +0100 From: Patrick Schmeer <extpasc@rz.uni-sb.de> Subject: [vsnet-chat 5070] Re: KN Gem On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 01:59:20PM -0500, Mike Simonsen wrote: > The position and identity of KN Gem has been a bit of a mystery. It has been > mis-classified, mis-identified, and even mistaken for the Mira, BR Gem, > which resides happily in the same field minding its own business. Please observe only BR Gem, since KN Gem does not exist (misidentification of minor planet (123) Brunhild). Full report within a few days. Regards, Patrick