Sebastian et al, A couple of interesting points: 1) There is a pronounced period of between 68 and 80 days in the light curve of the visual/PEP observations shown in the second figure of IBVS 5026.at about JD 2448500 and ending with an apparent minimum on about JD 2448825. Prior to the start of that drop, the data strongly suggest another local minimum around JD 2448200, almost exactly 8 cycles of the 78.86-day spectroscopic period before the possible minimum on 2448825. From the spectroscopic ephemeris I gave, Min. I should have occurred on JD 2448825 and on JD 2448194. 3) If the 68-80 day cyclic behaviour shown in the second figure in IBVS 5026 is apparent in the recent photometry, and if each successive max and min is slightly brighter than the preceding one, then the luminosity is increasing slowly with time. At the same time, a periodicity in the light variation is emerging that hasn't been seen before. (Your Figure 1 also suggests that a lomg-period variation in magnitude has occurred before.) The predicted times of maximum and minimum that the spectroscopic "orbit" yields are not necessarily times of *eclipses*, but they do reproduce the recently observed times of minimum very well. (They are offset from the actual observed light minima by about 90in phase, which is a characteristic of Beta CMa stars.) The Delta Sco light variations are roughly sinusoidal in shape, which is also a Beta CMa-like characteristic. An analogue to Delta Sco might be EN Lac: Several, very short, pulsation periodicities are tangled up with long-period varitations of from 331-days to 74-years. EN Lac is also an eclipsing binary with line-profile variations, and the radial velocitie curve shows a lot of scatter close to periastron passage in the eclipsing binary orbit. So there's a lot to untangle! But it can be done - see Lehmann, Harmanec, et al (2001), A&A 367, pp 236-249. The provisional spectroscopic "orbital elements" merely describe in a convenient way, for now, the periodic nature of the velocities. They also allow for some testable predictions to be made. The fact that the value for a sin i places the secondary *inside* the primary pretty much quashes the interpretation of the gross radial velocity variations as being due to binarity. While there are many elements of Delta Sco's behaviour that are indicative of Beta CMa-type variability, the projected rotational velocity of Delta Sco is 175 km/sec, but the maximum rotational velocity observed for Beta CMa stars is about 40 km/sec. Also, there are only a couple of other Beta CMa stars (that I can recall) which show any kind of emission lines in their spectra, and then only weakly (and not of the hydrogen lines). It is too early to say what is causing the periodic behaviour in the Delta Sco velocities, or why they have persisted for over ninety years. I believe they are very complex, much like those of EN Lac, but that they can be untangled. There are several possibilities involving one or a combination of causes, and the radial velocities do not entirely rule much shorter, Beta CMa-like variability underlying the data. This witness deponeth not further - I am still committing crimes against the radial velocity data! <G> One final note: Periastron passage in the long-period (speckle) orbit is rapidly approaching. None of the published radial velocity data covers the rapid descending branch of the velocity curve near periastron passage. Radial velocities, line profiles, and photometry are badly needed during periastron passage. Regards, Thom Gandet > Hi, Thom: > No trace of eclipses can be found in the PEP and visual > recent photometry, and most important in the three year Hipparcos data. > Although the lightcurve may have been affected by the eruption, certainly > the eclipses wouldn't have appeared or disappeared because of this. > However, maybe there IS an eclipse but not of a star but > the ejected ring. Maybe that's the reason of the cyclic variations seen. The > same goes for the BCEP possibility: how could the amplitude be increased > that much? And, of course, a 78 days cycle has nothing to do with the less > than a day periods of those stars. So the star is a BCEP variable but the 75 > or 78 days cycle needs to be explained in other way. > > Cheers, > Sebastian. > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://vsnet.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.249 / Virus Database: 122 - Release Date: 13/04/01 -- ************************************************************************ Lizard Hollow Observatory Thomas L. Gandet, Director PO Box 77021 Tucson, AZ 85703-7021 USA ************************************************************************