crawl@zoom.co.uk wrote: > > A B type star that's part of a physical binary of 10 to 20 years' period > that shows photometric variation at periastron... > > ...does that sound at all familiar, Sebastian???? [hint to others, see IBVS > 5026] > > Given the bit about spectroscopic binaries, maybes del Sco is also a 20 day > spec bin after all, and then again, maybe not! > > Cheers > > John John - The comparison to delta Sco may be apt, but delta Sco is a Be star formerly classified as GCAS. None of the late B-stars I referred to have shown emission lines - yet! My hunch is that Herbig Be stars, GCAS stars, and "classical" Be stars form an evolutionary sequence; all of these classes may be really be some form of pre-main sequence object (the Herbig Be stars certainly are) and are moving onto the M.S. The long-period orbits of the late B-star binaries generally have very highly eccentric orbits - like the 10-year orbit of delta Sco. While multiple star orbits are generally not co-planar, if the inclination of delta Sco's long-period orbit is near, say 66 the short-period binary - if it exists! - could be an eclipser with an 80-day period. (I don't have the Hartkopf interferometry handy.) The inference could be drawn (and I do draw it) that the long- period companion "stimulates" the emission near periastron passage. (A periastron distance of 1 AU for such massive stars as these involves enormous tidal stresses.) However, photometric variability in these late-B stars has only been suspected. They are, perhaps, Be-stars in the making. Delta Sco, considering its spectral type, its past spectroscopic behavior and its recent photometric behavior, may be a Herbig Be star rather than a classical Be star. The prior lack of convincing evidence for a spectroscopic period ought to be re-examined, as the recent photometry by Sebastian and others (IBVS 5026) does show evidence for a period near 80-days. However, it is difficult to measure radial velocities of Be stars that are meaningful in terms of Keplerian motion because of effects by gas streams, decretion/ accretion disk activity, etc. Delta Sco's behavior is very similar to that of V380 Cep, a bright Herbig Be star that has shown a clear 3.7-year cycle in the H-alpha equivalent widths over the last 20 years. There is also a long-term trend toward higher EWs with time. A high-state in the EWs is predicted sometime before June of this year, and it is expected to be the highest yet observed. This star should be monitored closely for photometric changes during the high-state. (The radial velocities are difficult to interpret; they tantalize only!) V380 Cep reminds me eerily of the remark made in IBVS 5026 about Delta Sco: "The current optical outburst is unlike anything previously seen, in terms of both magnitude and duration. The H{alpha} emission is also stronger than previously observed, but in detail it does not show a strong correlation with the brightness variations, which suggests that the mass loss and luminosity are not strongly coupled." Visual observations of V380 Cep are fairly easy to make because the only good comparison stars are up to 3-4away. However, there is a nearby comparison star ideal for PEP (but too far away for most CCDs - and too bright!). V380 Cep is imbedded in a large reflection nebula, and appears in a beautiful photograph in the Gallery section of Sky and Telescope a couple of months ago. I believe the probability is high that many of the Be stars will turn out to be short-period binaries; at least some of those will be eclipsers. Lizard Hollow Observatory is observing fainter Be-stars, GCAS stars, the late-B stars I mentioned, and other blue variables that may be related to the Be-star phenomenon. Simultaneous photometry and spectroscopy of these objects would be a fruitful collaboration. Improved orbits of the long-period interferometric binaries are also needed. Cordially, Thom Gandet -- ************************************************************************ Lizard Hollow Observatory Thomas L. Gandet, Director PO Box 77021 Tucson, AZ 85703-7021 USA ************************************************************************