Estimate magnitude CCD SN2002gd 20021028.793 169CR Nic OT 167 A 3.8" 300s 41° http://vsnet.astrosurf.com/snweb/2002/02gd/images/02gdNI_C200210281903.htm SN2002ha 20021028.845 150CR LLA OT 162 A 4.5" 500s 39° http://vsnet.astrosurf.com/snweb/2002/02ha/images/02haLL_C200210282017.htm LLA|J. M. Llapasset|IAU 635 fr|0.28-m f/6.8 reflector|KAF-401-E|AIP4WIN Nic|J. Nicolas|fr|0.23-m f/6.7 reflector|KAF-400|PRISM Explanations on the format can be found at http://vsnet.astrosurf.com/snweb/legend.htm Software SNWeb provided by Jean-Claude PELLE ( jcpelle@mail.pf ) Jean-Marie LLAPASSET Obs 635 Perpignan (France) http://perso.wanadoo.fr/jm.llapasset http://vsnet.astrosurf.com/snweb/