Last night I had a visual glimpse of SN 1998es near the galaxy core. Patient viewing at high magnifications did reveal the SN photons on and off. I am not confident reporting my magnitude estimates but they are well beyound 13.3V: my best guess would be 14.4 + or - 0.3 (and off the record). The visual observations were done using a 25 cm f/4.5 Newtonian at about 160 x. Regards, Berto Monard Pretoria >>> Taichi Kato <tkato@kusastro.kyoto-u.ac.jp> 11/21/98 05:57AM >>> (fwd) SN1998es photometry and astrometry (Sala) From g.sala@skylink.it Sat Nov 21 03:24 JST 1998 Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 19:23:27 +0100 To: Taichi Kato <tkato@kusastro.kyoto-u.ac.jp> From: "Giuseppe A. Sala" <g.sala@skylink.it> Subject: sn1998es brightness Cc: Giovanni Anselmi <redaz@coelum.com>, Mirko Villi <villi@supernovae.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=====================_911582607==_" Content-Length: 1514 --=====================_911582607==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Dear Dr. Kato: The attached Creport.txt file shows astrometric and photometric data of sn1998es CCD image taken on Nov 17.80895 UT at Promiod Observatory with an unfiltered and well calibrated 120sec CCD image (QE Peak at 520nm). The m(V)=13.3 is surprisingly much lower than that one reported by other observers. My CCD camera (Sony ICX083AL) is rather sensitive in UBV light. USNO SA1.0 reference stars and Astrometrica program have been used. I would appreciate any comment. Many thanks in advance. Best regards Giuseppe A. Sala