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[vsnet-chat 6859] Re: (fwd) Re: (fwd) Re: (fwd) Re: [vsnet-campaign-nova 1424] Re: (fwd) nova list update



Re: [vsnet-chat 6858] (fwd) Re: (fwd) Re: (fwd) Re: [vsnet-campaign-nova 1424] Re: (fwd) nova list update

> >   Was the object you observed 4 weeks prior to Takao the genuine prediscovery
> >image of the nova?  I asked you on this in a different place, but have
> >not received a firm answer.  This is particularly important because
> >a recent work by Kimeswenger and Lechner (astro-ph/0309370) greatly
> >relied on these "premaximum observations" in their discussion of the
> >nature.  If the nova was not convincingly bright for a long time before
> >the maximum, this paper would have to be withdrawn.
> >
> >  
> >
> Hmm. I wish you hadn't dragged me into this with the comment about my so 
> called "independent discovery". You'll notice that I didn't challenge 
> Doug's original list that attributed the nova to Takao. But now that you 
> bring it up and I'm forced to defend my integrity, here is a link that 
> should satisfy you that my claims are true:

   Ah, I found that my statement "4 weeks prior to Takao" must have been
"your positive detections in March 21 - May 29".  Could you please examine
these images, or post them on your website?  These positive detection
reports are what were referred by Kimeswenger and Lechner (astro-ph/0309370).
The reality of such a long premaximum halt is much more astrophysically
interesting to discuss on.

   Anyway, your detection of a variable star "4 weeks prior to Takao"
was on June 16.  The first secure human detection of this outburst was
made by the ASAS-3 team about 1.3 d before your recognition.  This was
apparently the first "independent detection" of this variable star.

Regards,
Taichi Kato


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