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[vsnet-chat 6129] (fwd) a little red curiousity



(fwd) a little red curiousity

  The following message is from John Greaves.  The image is placed at

  http://vsnet.kusastro.kyoto-u.ac.jp/pub/vsnet/others/USNOcolor/Ru_versus_R2.gif

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This doesn't actually amount to anything, but I find it an 
interesting curiousity anyroad.

Seeing as POSS I has a pretty quick cut off in the south, I'd decided 
to try and see if USNO B1.0 B2-R2 could be of use with regards star 
colour assessment for the southern hemisphere.  I'd thought about it 
before, but decided it wasn't worthwhile considering the lack of same 
date stuff, but something came up to make me do it anyway.

B2 and R2 are the most commonly available for southern stuff, and 
using -30 degree declination northern cutoff I had about 8,000 stars 
that matched from Brian Skiff's loneos.phot.

Anyway, I also matched these ~8000 R2 values against "UCAC red" mags, 
if only for the sake of it, and the graph is attached with R2 as 
horizontal axis and UCAC1 instrumental red as vertical axis.  The 
black line represents where a linear 1:1 fit would lie.

As with R1 against CMC12 r', a 1 to 1 fit more or less applies, and 
the standard deviation on R2 - R_ucac was 0.45 (though a plot of R2 - 
R_ucac is a 'banana'), much the same as in the case of R1 against 
CMC12 r' and B1 against loneos.phot list B, but note that despite 
that, it isn't actually a linear fit (R1 against r' was linear, as 
was B1 versus B).

Ideally, as R2 is from F plates, and R1 from E plates, I ought to do 
an R2 versus CMC12 r' check to ensure it isn't something to do with F 
plates, but I can't see that (anyway, although the plates are the 
same, R2 around CMC12 zone is a different survey to R2 south of -30).

But I reckon the non-linearity is in the UCAC magnitudes.  Granted 
they are instrumental and not a standard in any way, and although 
called "red", stretch a fair bit into the visual, but that seems no 
reason for such an effect.

Anyway, as I say, just a curiousity, but it does make me think on the 
nature of the plethora of instrumental CCD mags out there, seeing as 
most seem to use the same family of kodak chips etc.  I know the non-
linearity isn't marked, but folk do tend to quote their mags to high 
precision with no error estimates attached.

Cheers

John


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