Taichi Kato wrote: > ...If one feels a need > to discriminate K and Ks (or K'), the discrimination between Rj and Rc > is a matter of comparable significance. While I understand the basic intent here, I don't think these two bandpass discriminations are of "comparable significance." The difference between Rc and Rj is small, and other than a zeropoint shift, the two systems are reasonably close for moderate-color stars. For the K bandpass, one should remember that the K window is almost as wide as the entire visible window. Ks or K' is used to denote a filter that covers the blue end of the window, dropping the last 200nm or so on the red end. That red end is where the thermal background due to the atmosphere and telescope structure rises sharply, and removing it from the bandpass drops the sky background by at least a factor of two. There are four regimes of "filtered" photometry: narrow-band, such as Halpha, where everyone agrees with each other since the bandpass is determined by the filter; medium-band, such as the Stromgren uvby system, again pretty much determined by the filters; wide-band, such as Johnson or SDSS, where you have to be careful how the filters/CCD are specified to get even an approximate match, with transformations often necessary; and unfiltered, where the response is entirely due to the CCD and atmosphere and matching with anyone else is a real problem. At the same time, the amount of detected light increases as you widen the bandpass, so it is always a compromise as to how photometry is performed. For most amateurs, going Johnson/Cousins is your best choice for all-around general-purpose photometry. Arne