Re: Magnitude estimates from unfiltered CCD images Some practical notes. I know several unfiltered CCD observers who have reported in different ways. They can be categorized into: 1) Zero-point adjusted using a selected bright comparison star within the same field of the variable (consistent within an observer) either using GSC/USNO magnitudes. 2) Same as in 1), using V manitudes from several sort of chart materials. 3) Zero-point adjusted using the whole set of detected stars in the same field, either using GSC/USNO. In this case, the number of comparison stars may be variable between exposures. Several automated softwares and surveys use this policy. Both "C" (unfiltered CCD) or "R" bands have been referred to in reporting these magnitudes. We, when reporting unfiltered CCD magnitudes, use the policy 1) or 2), selecting the bluest brightest star in the same field (this can be easily examined by comparing GSC/USNO magnitudes and obtained instrumental magnitudes), and report them in the "C" system. The problems of this strategy are as already mentioned, but we consider it better than to report nothing, esp. in dwarf novae observing. Even observations with an error of 1 mag are crucially important in many cases. Regards, Taichi Kato